The grid is present on every cell that is divisible by 40 on the X and Y coordinates (type in /where) and the five adjecent cells to those. Hunters have ankle snare to not get hit. When you're on gutterline, you cannot splash damage with BB (you only hit 1 mobs from your mobpack), thats the ONLY thing we regret, we are not talkin AT ALL about the 2 hits. According to your logic Wizards can't do anything in Renewal compared to Classic because their damage got nerfed. Nobody here is trying to "hide some truth" in a great conspiracy against Knights. We don't want a knight-only WoE where other classes are bullied by peco-fast F1-spammers that deal sustained highest physical melee AoE DPS with no drawbacks. A blatant nerf will only build drama, a compromise could solve the problem. Also so think the only way to legitimately be better at using BB is to practice and understand the skill nature and how to position yourself properly. He also said Chick Hat is OP so don't expect much understanding. Thankfully, you are not a GM, so from now on, your bile will be properly ignored on my part. But going with the hurr-durr I can do it better than Gravity mentality is way more damaging. Knights are going to take damage and sacrfice health. Skill Bowling Bash Still bugged By Zantetsuken, September 12, 2020. tl;dr Apparently, BB effect has been changed in official and there exists these "gutter lines" where you only hit once with BB. thats the entire identity. Momiji. then why shouldn't they be able to mob like a beast. No horizontal movement would save me from a Gutter "Monster", so I'd move either diagonally, or vertically. Yeah, sure. Bowling Bash is OP if you look at it exclusively for what it is alone and not at the class it was put on. Big Card sprite used. You act like reducing the total BB damage by 20% removes Knights ability to mob and kill monsters. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. You'd just gut the class. You currently have javascript disabled. You can edit your mini map to show the gutterlines. The fact that Holy Cross has an attached element is not always an advantage, endows or elemental weapons do nothing for that skill. Playing around gutter lines is part of the knights life. I get oom SP when playing all classes:P If one dont use ctrl+click to lvl. I've also talked to people playing knight in my guild and they notice the nerf too. its easy, but sometimes you just mob too much can't run, and you are dead. (not a big deal). Look at the chart I posted earlier, they're still the best at what you're trying to do. Cons: Ignition break has a very high pre-req to get, you won’t get max Ignition Break until a minimum of job 23. Learn More. Installation: 1) Make a Backup of Ragexe.exe in your RO folder. I use Aspersio when I'm hunting stuff like Raydrics without bringing my priest with me. A perfect way to behead this class. Stuff like this usually comes down to some ulterior motive, and could tarnish reputations. Aren't these tools usually client-side only? League bowling has long been one of America's favorite leisure sports. Bowling Bash is using a mechanic which draws gutter lines on a map to prevent massive mobs from chain-reacting. and neither do strawberry raffles. Rune Knights are the final evolution of the Knight classes. They have traded in their Pecos for new dragon mounts and are ready to do some serious damage with an arsenal of new powerful attacks while also having the highest HP pool compared to other classes. then you brought up a chart comparing them to assassins/rogues who are not a class built for it. /memo is disabled on MVP Maps. (hence the post) I've seen  it come up in main chat too. GET YOUR OWN TITLE NOW LOL. Off topic: LMAO, at first I read the title as "Bowling: Gutter lines", so I expected this to be about the gutters at the side during bowling =p. I propose that we just revert the bowling bash nerf and see how Knights do. no defensive tools, just tools that enable them to mob and dps. And it shouldn't be. Tree of Savior: Zereges (Falconeer-Mergen-Ranger) Ragnarok break now. Knights are built to mob and nothing else. Created as a spiritual successor to the defunct RCX add-on, SRH offers a handful of the same features from the defunct program. … The only unreliable part of that skill is casting it on areas that aren't gutter lines. Well i understand what you mean but to say that knight is the only one having a hard time with SP while mobbing and killing is a lie. I personally think bowling bash hitting twice at such a high chance is too powerful.. Only tools that help them mob. 1. Bowling Bash / Gutter Lines images. Agi Knight isn't even bad, it's similar to spear sader except you have an AoE skill too instead of a pure single target. Bowling Bash Gutter Line are back after rA Synced By Amonkhet, December 15, 2020. This is not the case. Even when used with abowon aRogueclass, the skill is still considered Melee. I vividly remember playing euRO 14 years ago and nearly every single Knight I saw was a spear build that used Brandish. But going with the hurr-durr I can do it better than Gravity mentality is way more damaging. What did I just read lmfao A lot of people hate Bowling Bash because of the gutter lines. With the gutterline removal we had a good excuse to look at the skill again. I REALLY hope there's something that can be used legally and officially. You can go agi knight, but then you can't mob and use bowling bash really anyway because you'll get melted. Knights can just get Aspersio/Endows and do elemental BB which right now deals 100% less damage than Holy Cross BUT it's AoE. Land protection's last cell will still be affected by land protection. Agi is pretty bad in the sense that its inferior to literally any one else who excels at building agi. If they become "OP" then we can look into them again, but right now I feel like they are pretty weak and the nerf was too pre-emptive. Gutter lines were a bug in the code and a problem for the gameplay, it has been fixed and it's a QoL improvement. Brandish Spear is ok, but it was never comparable to BB. I've talked to multiple people using BB who told me they didn't even know the skill was nerfed until someone told them, I think you're exaggerating. GRF Editor can generate flat maps with optional gutter lines from any map. they basically don't do anything else but mob. all it did was mean we had to move a few cells sometimes with our mob or fly wing when we got hit locked on a gutter line. You seem to think its bad that they are good at what they are supposed to be good at. I highly suggest trying to mob on a knight yourself. This setting will display a circle around your character to show the max casting range of your skills. It's way too strong as it is normally. Grey world is not supported and even a ban offense. or at least a high end weapon and a very difficult to obtain card. That's what I have anyway. if you're talking about this  sorry but he's only talking about the coordinates below the minimap, something that we already have. Is it an "ulterior motive? You can't look at abilities in a vacuum imo. Posted on December 30, 2019 | By Wizzzzard | No comments. LOL, cause im planning to do some mobbing then bowling bash to be unique. I made this little chart as a comparison between melee attack aoe skills: As you can see unnerfed BB is by far the best AoE skill, Grimtooth is more sp efficient but is mechanically quite flawed with mobs running away and having to use hide. But i dont have cash to buy from cash shop so i farmed sp items and lvled, and it was crazy! If you are using BB on these gutter lines you only get 1x500% dmg instead of 2x500% off from the gutter lines. I've been playing knight WITH an earth deleter and it feels incredibly weak and underwhelming. // Area of Bowling Bash chain reaction (pre-renewal only) // 0: Use official gutter line system // 1: Gutter line system without demi gutter bug // 2-20: Area around caster (2 = 5x5, 3 = 7x7, 4 = 9x9, ..., 20 = 41x41) // Note: If you knock the target out of the area it will only be hit once and won't do splash damage: bowling_bash_area: 0 Momiji. but it is mostly terrible because you'd rather play something else with agi then a knight. There is an invisible grid on every map that reverts the skill to its older self when performed inside it. I don't know what you're trying to get at dude. Well we aren't. As Lumen said on my stream they have no defensive tools. and some other page I found pointed out that Herc "fixed" that bug. Mobbing alone feels like shit because I have no gear, that's why I party up instead. Its been hard, 80% of the time that i die is becaues of it, if anyone has a solution. Now BB still does ton of damages and needs a nerf. Skill Range. http://irowiki.org/wiki/Bowling_Bash, just kinda memorize coordinates between the 40 tiles squares (20,60,100,140,180, etc) and land BB's around there, like, keep an eye in the coordinates below the minimap, From the BB link above, "In PvP environments, Knights may be requested to tank and spread status effects instead of inflict damage." they damn well should be. If you actually deal proper damage on that location when you are mobbing, use that SAME spot to mob. Nerf is absolutely necessary. Also so think the only way to legitimately be better at using BB is to practice and understand the skill nature and how to position yourself properly. Nah, Bowling Bash works in a way that it hits twice (hard-coded) because it works with collision code. There is an inn for those reasons, heal and get sp, warp back farm some more. If a knight can get raydric, a high refine two handed sword that is actually good. I just don't understand the comparison to classes like sin/agi sader who have high flee. Am I the only one to find weird that the guild asking for a buff to BB damages is also the guild with twice the number of high level knights than other guilds? you really haven't made an argument other than it has high dps/strong aoe, etc. Knights require a lot of investment in build as without shit like raydric you aren't gonna farm well on them. The server im playing is classic, no trans, just 2nd job and umbala episode is the new update. No safety wall, hide, they won't have high flee as they need VIT to survive and they have huge HP pools. Never miss BB again! Gutter lines were never a problem, until now. they are not comparable to a knight which specifically only mobs. Share Followers 0. bowling bash is not intended to hit 2 times, that is why it has such high damage, I suppose you dont even know how currently works BB... facepalm. Ragnarok Bowling Bash Gutterlines. you can talk all you want about their "sp efficiency" compared to other classes but you are leaving out that knights have trash sp pools and sp recovery even with int and magni on they won't be spamming bowling bash. Server: PRO [VALKYRIE] Stat: str 96. agi 50. vit 70 +++++ [ lord knight exists because of two reasons, to be a tanker and damage dealer ] int 1. dex 50. luk 1. stat explanation – we all know there’s numerous build for an LK. You can add an overlay to the map or use something like paint to draw the lines in yourself. using BB OFF gutter lines is bug abusing. If you are going to nerf its damage, then reduce the sp consumption by a corresponding amount to compensate. Bowling Bash / Gutter Lines images. there is nothing wrong with that. Just that the nerf was unnecessary and pre-emptive against a class that doesn't offer anything else. There will be a 3% TAX on all VENDING Transactions. It's way cheaper to just go from 1 mob to another to kill them, which you can also do on a Knight if you build for it. at which point a knight player deserves to be able to do that. Bowling Bash Nerf Unnecessary and Needs Revert. You flee while mobbing, that's why it's nice. its a joke to compare their AOE abilities to a knight when they have many other tools at their disposal that help them. 2) Copy Ragexe from „Ragexe for RCX“ (inside the downloaded .rar folder) to your RO folder and overwrite the current Ragexe. Arrow at bottom right can be used to cycle between RO clients. It’s a bug that has been fixed on kRO – Renewal with the redesign/re-balancing of the 2nd class skills last year. Bowling Bash is pretty much what makes a knight, what it is. Gutter lines were never a problem, until now. argument is that knights bring nothing but mobbing/dps with literally zero utility. They didn't need any nerfs because quite frankly you can't spam the ability. Any good knight is gonna have some agi to increase BB dps. Knight leveling is fine for both vit and agi, on par or above other classes. vit builds get you hit far more often than agi builds (duh). That's the main argument against using this skill instead of Brandish Spear. something you DONT do on any other class. BB does NOT out dps that vs those mobs. Did you know that unnerfed BB deals more damage than skills like Sonic Blow, Holy Cross and Mammonite? I would rather use hook instead of a "quality of life" "improvement" on my skills that basically reduces my damage by 20%. And I don't know why you think getting some agi will help you getting hit less. there is. why would I play knight, burn a shit ton of pots/sp items (assuming im a normal person without Earth Deleter) to have similar dps to other classes (cuz its nerfed right now) when I can just play other classes and not have to spend the pots/sp items. I, myself, can feel the nerf. they should be the best by a wide margin since that is their strength. BB might seem bad now because it's early on in the server, but once you get geared up and get that Earth Deleter Card and other sp solutions I'm sure it will feel great again. generalist its the best dps ability in the game pre trans, but whats wrong with that? Several functions may not work. even WITH earth deleter you will still be using more pots than any other class. Every 40 cells (starting at coordinates 0,0 at the bottom left of each map) there is a line … Bowling Bash is balanced by a knight's limited sp pool and regeneration and the scarcity of sp items. But hey, I could be complaining about a specific snake oriented card, which should proc 5% only, or with a certain passive skill already learned, shouldn't even take effect, but I am not here to take away the joy of a class, leaving a sour taste in every assassins mouth. Keep the nerf. yes you can build a knight for agi, but why the hell would anyone play an agi knight when they can play an agi sin, rogue, sader, or hunter who does more with the stat a million times better. nothing else. you are just going to take a shit ton of damage. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. And as he Said you use hide and lose aggro and shit. We didn't remove Endure/Peco riding/Improve HP Recovery or anything. Post Aug 27, 2011 #1 2011-08-27T07:01. They were unf… and you can't spam and be super effiicient without full high end gear basically. This could be a managable compromise. In fact, if you knew nothing about gutter lines at all, you are more likely to BB a mob outside of gutter line than in it with the non gutter line areas being larger and all. so do rogues. 715. So how to solve this? no compensation really because, again, we never were on gutter lines anyway. Bowling Bash strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflictphysical damage individually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards.1 1 Notes 2 About Gutter Lines 3 Applications 4 Known Bugs The Cast Time cannot be interrupted. On this server, though the damage nerf is very noticeable. Strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflict physical damageindividually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards. I'll ask Campitor if I can release it, but it's probably a grey area. WOE boxes don't exist. It's like if you nerfed double attack for rogue or EDP for sin. Gutter lines were a fix to a problem that hasn't existed in RO for years and were an unnecessary hindrance to "new" Bowling Bash, so removing them is a quality of life improvement, rather than a buff to the skill. don't compare them to a rogue, sin because those classes aren't built for it and have many other strengths. You either auto follow priest (then you cant mob a lot of monsters) or you park our priest (cant go very far from your priest before aspersio runs out). This is not recommended for shared computers. and that's with your efficiency. the fact is this, despite what any non knight player will tell you, any good knight used simple ro hook and knew where the gutter lines were. See more ideas about Bowling party, Bowling, Bowling birthday party. But oh well. Yeah so let's buff one guild over others three weeks before WoE starts! all the ways i found out to avoid it, its not official. BB is still the highest DPS source and it's an AoE, stop complaining. I don't go pure vit. Guildmaster changing has a cooldown of 24hrs. It's just that most classes don't even bother doing that right now. Youtube demo. Those other classes that have AOE have other abilities/skills that make them what they are. thats a fuck ton of expensive ass gears that are not in any way easy to come by. Did you find this helpful? Bowling Bash also requires some getting used to. 3) Extract the „RCX Client“ folder somewhere. Hard to call it a "bug abuse" when nothing in game officially says Bowling Bash is only supposed to work on certain cells, nor is there any official in-game way to tell which cells are gutter lines, outside of having /where hot keyed until you eventually memorize gutter lines for that map. All in all, if the GMs want to nerf, firstly look at more pressing matters, and avoid nerfing unnecessary things. ", http://cp.titanro.net/?module=ranking&action=character&jobclass=7. I go hybrid vit/agi like you should. They were only broken on restart because there were no concerns about spending on pots (neither sp nor HP). Our bowling parties for kids are fun and easy to plan! trappers doing 25k-35k is insane. Thats just...pitiful. It's not a matter of the ability itself being good. Disabled changing of Guildmaster when WOE is active. I have used it a bit and I miss a lot too. I am also on the opinion that this "fix" is unnecessary, and there is no valid reasoning behind it. (can attest to this myself as in beta I put int on my knight, ran magni and still was almost perma oom without ED) And the only way a knight is gonna be able to spam BB is with high end gear and earth deleter. So, today i have a question, is there an official way to avoid Gutter Lines? Leaving the skill as it should be is, in my opinion, the smarter choice. what im getting at it, is that as the title says its unnecessary. Their name is often abbreviated and then referred to as just "RK". if your flee isn't very high it doesn't do much for you besides dodge a weaker mobs attacks and the occasional attack from a solo mob thats stronger. (right now there are none besides zweihander which is an mvp drop), earth deleter, firelock shoes, etc. Saders dominate the maps they should (demon/undead/shadow). I have not tryed knight on titan, but on renewal it was way crazy:P Sure u had alot of easy sp items. And sins have really damn high flee. The kRO fix to gutter lines :v (they fixed the begining of this year(only took 15 years :v)). Is it not the best mobbing class in the game still? So if you are going a vit knight you rely on bowling bash to do what your class is designed to do. Of course its good. But they are balanced around that. 2) And if I get "Dremuci Forest (mosk_dun03) 212, 120" as example. So, at least you are honest about nerfing, and not hiding it behind "quality of life improvement". 715. Knights are a pain to gear up, require a lot of resources to farm with (even with earth deleter you are going to be spamming pots/fish to sustain your health). Not that anyone should care, because no one can detect greyworld anyway if you don't stream. and even then you still need pots. with a 200% damage reduction being the difference between a two shot and a three shot on a mob. Both of those are single target skills too, unlike Bowling Bash. those classes have multitude of other strengths. Stuff like this usually comes down to some ulterior motive, and could tarnish reputations. the entire kit is balanced around it being good. No. Aspersio at best lasts 3 minutes which no one is gonna mob very far with that. Some abilities individually will always look broken. One of the most annoying things of playing a Bowling Bash Knight are these pesky areas where the skill is bugged and doesn’t work properly. Gutter lines were a fix to a problem that hasn't existed in RO for years and were an unnecessary hindrance to "new" Bowling Bash, so removing them is a quality of life improvement, rather than a buff to the skill. Instead, we just get a nerf. Edited by Prodigy, 07 July 2017 - 04:57 PM. SimpleROHook is a third party program created to extend the functionality of the game's client. which we already know dude. Right now Knights do use more sp/%dmg per BB, but that's intended. How desperate are you to have a 20% damage buff on your poorly built knight? References ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 TitanRO forums: Server Info endure is the best utility they have and it doesn't prevent any dmg, just prevents hit lock. so I wouldn't even consider that. the kit is built around mobbing. Skill effect and description of the skill Bowling Bash in the mmorpg Ragnarok Online. So of course they should have the best AOE mobbing ability. Also quite expensive to level it’s supply … of course a knight is better at mobbing that an assassin. By Bowling Bash is what makes a Knight. Mobbing is quite horrible for knights. Just look for a grf editing tutorial, but make sure you back up your main grf file in case you mess something up. because they felt weaker. A solution: if the damage is decreased, the SP consumption should be decreased also. You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Mobbing with an assassin with agi build no int and grimtooth uses alot of sp too, and does way less dmg. I don't agree that's their entire identity, but you can mob well like you said. thats my point. Would they be actually bannable realistically speaking? As a player, who has been maining knights for quite a while now, I have to agree with Charlie here. This has nothing to do with class identity, it's a numbers tweak. It brings together a sense of community, nostalgia and competitiveness that goes unmatched by most other American pastimes. Only right movement is safe from our foe, the Gutter Line, because 157 is still a Gutter. double attack, stealth, double crit on katar. . Name: Lord Goriotep 99/70 SAVD Bowling Bash Build. So as such, they shouldn't be nerfed. Ankle snare by itself is a hideously broken ability. The class was powerful back then too. I don't have the BiS equipments at the moment, but I do have decent enough gears, and still I feel the difference. bowling bash; gutter; gutterlines; lines; gramps; weekly; quest; downloads; custom maps; custom; map; grf; By Laharyl, April 21, 2017 in NovaRO Discussion. ติดตั้ง Mod สำหรับดู Gutter Grid โดยอุปกรณ์มีดังนี้นะจ๊ะ >> GRF Editor , Mod Geffen Dun3 , วิธีการติดตั้ง Mod << สามารถกดดาวโหลดทั้ง 3ไฟล์ได้ที่นี่เลย Holy Cross for one is situationally way more dps than bowling bash on the right target (weak to holy obv) and does stupid damage single target. If you don't know what Gutter Lines are, they are the reason why there are times when Bowling Bash just won't work. Charlie Loves U, June 12, 2018 in Processed. thats the point. Bowling Bash Behavior: Follows the official Gutter Line system. That you go pure vit is your choice, a hybrid build is way better in the current meta and will make sure you flee some hits too. Keep the nerf, Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. You should be able to easily find individual maps within the grf itself. You and everyone else against Bowling Bash seem to think we are playing on restart. I'm not alone in this sentiment. I do agree with the nerf being unnecassary, especially with us having no infinite SP regen items here it wouldn't have been the only solo carry leech way to level. Right, I should not have attacked your poorly built knight. The best way i now is just to walk diagonally, 3 cells? Elemental weapons are nice, but a lot of monsters are formless and don't have a weakness, and bowling bash is pretty weak to those right now. especially without an earth deleter and let me know how it feels. thats the cost for the reward. Literally every class that can't bring a priest with them is still going back for buffs, it's too inefficient to not do it. lots of arguments being made, you guys just ignoring them. Sep 22, 2019 - Explore Pat Sphar's board "Misc." Put BB on any other class and yes it would be the most broken shit, but knights have been balanced around the ability for ages and have been fine for ages. sure its "viable" in the sense that its not completely terrible. Similarly, if we would nerf Double Attack from 50% to 40% chance (we're not),  would that make remove Rogues/Assassins ability to click stuff down? <--- ??? again, you are using a shit ton of resources to farm with a knight. First time trying BB x_x. The biggest secret to mastering Bowling Bash is Gutter Lines. I have a 9x BB/Pierce Knight. If you dont wanna go to an inn farm sp items. on Pinterest. You came into this thread only to get personal, and to derail the actual discussion about the problem. look at the coordinates under the mini-map. Knights don't have any other form of good dps besides Bowling Bash. Just the other day someone posted in main chat "is bowling bash nerfed?" One of the most annoying things of playing a Bowling Bash Knight are these pesky areas where the skill is bugged and doesn’t work properly. I've heard the argument for nerfing bowling bash was "but we removed gutter lines". But you take a shit ton more damage. Literally every class that mobs and wants to kill >3 enemies at once alone has to use potions or some other form of sustain. Bowling Bash gutter lines have been removed. you mob fast, you level fast, you do more dps. The gutterline removal was introduced because we felt that no skill should require a third party program to play. 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